Libertarians Don’t Get Out Much: The Problem with Libertarians


April 9, 2013 by Liberty


Making Libertarianism Attractive

There are a lot of people that don’t like libertarians. While Republicans and Democrats continue to throw turds on each other claiming it’s their political opinions, the libertarians are looking in with a disgusted look on their face. The republicans and democrats occasionally decide that it’s politically expedient to say a positive thing about the libertarians. That is, of course, when the libertarians are supporting an issue they support as well.

Yes, democrats love libertarians when we’re talking about marijuana but is the second the conversation goes to taxing rich people more they look at libertarians with contempt. Republicans are currently stroking the libertarian like it’s their pet kitten because they want gun rights but we all know how they really feel about libertarians.

Libertarians will often try to convert those around them. They know that their message is pretty clear. Freedom is good. People do good things when they’re more free. People take advantage of other people through government. Eventually, while they’re trying to change a staunch political opinions, they’ll begin running into a wall of repetition.

During a conversation, it’s suddenly like the libertarian preacher is talking to a brick wall. Eventually, people just stop listening to the libertarian argument. That’s the point that most libertarians just keep talking. Eventually they go home happy that they won the philosophical argument despite their opponent never changing their mind.

King Of The Hill – Population: 1

Libertarians are able to take a lot of pride in a moral victory. That’s one of the things that makes them a good person. It’s good to be happy at the end of the day if you did something good, even if you don’t see results from it immediately.

Most of the things that people do, don’t provide immediate results when successful. When you put a seed in the ground, you can’t expect to be eating an apple right away. That makes that little bit of pride and happiness a useful tool for getting things done. You don’t need to see immediate results for satisfaction, and that makes you more likely to be successful in planting trees. If you wanted immediate results then you might give up watering it or dig it up saying, “What’s up with that? Why aren’t you growing?”

Libertarians often treat political arguments like seeds that need to be planted and watered. They go home telling themselves that the person will change after the idea is planted. That just isn’t true though.

I can guarantee you that (99% of the time at least) the person you’re having a political conversation with will remember only one thing about your political argument. They’ll remember, “What… An… Ass.” Libertarianism is not a seed that you can plant. Libertarianism is a pill that you need to swallow. Your political adversaries are spitting the pill out repeatedly but you just keep trying to force the idea in.

If you believe in the non-aggression of libertarianism then you need to keep in mind the non-aggression of spreading ideas. You might be thinking, “Violence? I’m just talking to them.” Yea. Technically speaking, you’re absolutely right but there is a major difference between raping with facts and giving facts. If they don’t want to hear your ideas then don’t give them. If they’re non-responsive to a certain idea then stop making them hear it. One more fact will not convince them. They’re just ignoring logic at that point. That is the fundamental problem with libertarians that I discuss ideas with.

There is a much better alternative to intellectual rape. (Of course, intellectual rape is just a harsh term to boost my own point. Non-consensual is my point.) This is the slow courting process that involves the gentle loving caress of your… ideas…

Make Em’ Want It!

You don’t get someone in the sack with you by plopping your doodads out and saying “Check this out!” (Some women may be able to get away with it but really…) When you’re discussing political philosophy, if you want to make them actually learn something, you have to make it something that they want to do. There are hundreds of different ways you can do this.

One simple method is by listening to the libertarians belief’s that a person already has. Stereotypically speaking, you should talk to a republican about economic freedoms and a democrat about social freedoms. Get them talking about the freedoms that they love. Agree with everything that you can agree with. Get your political adversary to like you. One of the best ways to do that is by finding things that you two agree about.

People like people that are like themselves. Find your similarities and use them to build a positive relationship. Then you can slowly introduce a slightly different freedom that you believe in and try to get them to agree. Keep pushing a little farther and you’ll have them on your side.

This will work without too many logical arguments. That leads to the most important thing for libertarians to remember:

Logic Doesn’t Win Arguments

All the facts you’ve learned are useless against non-libertarians. Trust me, the facts are in. Libertarians have been using logical arguments from the start and absolutely nothing has changed for the better. Do not assault the people you discuss politics with using facts (unless, perhaps, they’re throwing them at you.) You will not get someone to change their mind using your superior intellect. This should come to no surprise if you’ve had any political discussions before: They don’t care.

The key to winning any political debate is not a clear set of logically sequential facts. I can assure you, most logical ideas you can bring up can be combated with an alternative view. Even if that view is flawed, you’ll be blamed for interpreting wrong. The only way that you can come out ahead in political discourse is through emotions.

You’ve got to make your opponent feel like Hitler. Perhaps that’s a little harsh but that’s the general way libertarians can always wins. How can a libertarian always hold the emotional cards?

“How can you enforce that?”

That is one of the most powerful questions you can ask in any argument. Any political movement can be attacked on it’s enforcement. That’s the fundamental flaw with all political actions. How do you make sure that people do exactly what you say?

“What about the (insert hurt minority here)?”

All government policies hurt minorities in a democracy. An example of this that’s pretty easy to get at is rights for disabled individuals. If someone says they support the political action in the protecting jobs for disabled people then the logical argument is that it did the opposite because there is now higher unemployment among disabled since the laws got introduced. Instead of using it logically, use it emotionally. What about the disabled people that are now unable to get a job because employers are scared to hire them? This is making logic personal.

“Would you kill me over this?”

You can lead any argument down this path. All political action needs to be enforced by people with guns. For example:

1. Someone Supports immigration laws

2. Say Immigrants get kidnapped (use the harsh terms for describing government action. It’s no different.)

3. Point out immigrants that try to protect themselves from kidnapping get killed.

There are definitely some additional lines you should throw into these discussions to keep them relaxed but it ultimately makes them feel the compulsive need to agree with you. People do not support violence when you point it out (in most cases.) If they do support it then maybe you can take a moral victory and be happy with it. You don’t want to have to deal with violent people supporting you anyway.

The Problem With Libertarians

The problem with libertarians is that they don’t effectively spread the message. The message is not something that logic can provide for most people. In fact, science has shown that people just get stronger opinions when someone sends them facts that disprove their opinion. People are not creatures of logic. They’re creatures of emotion.

Libertarians know this better than anyone.

Coerced action is not the same as peaceful action.

You can’t make someone believe you. You can only make it attractive for them to believe you.


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